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According to White House Press Secretary Gibbs, who spoke yesterday to reporters, President Obama agrees with the position taken by his DoJ.
Responding late Friday afternoon to a suit filed by the EFF against the NSA, the Justice Department
argued that the case should be dismissed because information surrounding the program was a “state secret” and therefore couldn’t be litigated or discussed. It also proposed that the government was protected by “sovereign immunity” under federal wiretapping statutes and the Patriot Act, arguing that the United States could only face lawsuits if they willfully elected to disclose intelligence obtained by wiretapping.
In response to a question at Thursday’s press briefing, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said that President Obama stands firmly behind a Justice Department brief filed last week which aims to have a civil liberties group’s lawsuit dismissed.
He “absolutely does,” Gibbs said. “Obviously, these are programs that have been debated and discussed, but the President does support that viewpoint.”
Pretty tough to take this in any way except that which is stated. President Obama agrees with the Bush administrations claims for immunity and "states secrets" in the case of clear FISA violations and illegal wiretapping.
From Electronic Frontier Foundation's website, reaction to Friday's filing reflected disappointment at the Obama administration's stance:
It's an especially disappointing argument to hear from the Obama Administration. As a candidate, Senator Obama lamented that the Bush Administration "invoked a legal tool known as the 'state secrets' privilege more than any other previous administration to get cases thrown out of civil court." He was right then, and we're dismayed that he and his team seem to have forgotten.
Sad as that is, it's the Department Of Justice's second argument that is the most pernicious. The DOJ claims that the U.S. Government is completely immune from litigation for illegal spying — that the Government can never be sued for surveillance that violates federal privacy statutes.
This is a radical assertion that is utterly unprecedented. No one — not the White House, not the Justice Department, not any member of Congress, and not the Bush Administration — has ever interpreted the law this way.
And yes, I AM a f#$@ing Democrat DFH. A very disappointed one. One who is a plaintiff in this case, and who will continue to support transparency and the rule of law with my last breath. Cuz that's what I was told a good citizen should demand.
So sue me.
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And Glenn Greenwald as well yesterday
points out that...
Considering the high approval ratings he is enjoying and the fact that he is a politician, does he really have any reason or motivation to do things any differently unless we can educate and inform enough people to pressure him to live up to his campaign rhetoric?
[p.s. - I'll see what I can do today about the <strike> tags, Lisa. An oversight. ;) ]
That's still
a great Greenwald quote ;-)
Ya, I don't use it often, but when ya need a strike out, dammit...ya need a strikeout! Just ask Nolan Ryan ;-P
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace... Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you...and may posterity forget t
Ok - I've added <strike></strike> tags to the list
of enabled tags in the filters now.
Also added a picture to your post - hope you don't mind? ;-)
Oh, good picture! n/t
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace... Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you...and may posterity forget t
I'm absolutely disgusted.
This is betrayal, there's no other word for it.
Thanks, Lisa, great essay!
"When I am president..."
Ya, well
My PARENTS told me there was a Santa Claus....
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace... Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you...and may posterity forget t
It amazes me that his approval rating
stays as high as it does.
Considering that high approval and the fact that he is a politician, does he really have any reason or motivation to do things any differently?
To see Obama supporters...
run so fast from principle just because of the man helps show just how broken the political game has become. No different than the dittoheads lining behind Rush in the crusade for Bush!
I think that there is one difference in that
the people who suspend critical judgment and unquestioningly support Obama no matter his policy implementations all watched and fought hard against the people who suspended critical judgment and unquestioningly supported Bush no matter what he did, and especially in the drum beating over the Iraq invasion, but seem unable to reflect on how they react to Obama and see the similarity.
There was a very very critical article written by Christopher King in England at Redress Information & Analysis in January 2007 that describes the phenomenon very unpleasantly...